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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Ant as a top-level project
Date Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:47:56 GMT

Stephane Bailliez wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Costin Manolache" <>
>>Erik - I think the important part of the proposal ( if you haven't
>> followed
>>reorg ) is about moving ant out of jakarta.
> I did not follow anything recently, are the reorg mails archived somewhere ?
>>The fact that ant is a great project and adding centipede to ant, as
>>well as are more of a red herring.
>>Please specify if your +1 on centipeded and +1 on also
>>reffers to moving ant out of jakarta.
> I have a hard time from Nicola's mail figuring out what this -really- means.

Well, INAL, but Apache is made out of Projects.
Jakarta is a Project, XML is a Project, etc...

Plainly put, making Ant a top-level project would automatically make it 
get out of the *dependency* to Jakarta and its PMC.


This doesn't mean that Ant developers need to get out of the Jakarta 
General list or ignore other Jakarta projects.

Jakarta is and will remain the *reference* point for Java Apache software.

It's just a matter of being indipendent of Jakarta and having a PMC that 
reports *directly* to the Apache board.

Honestly, I don't see how having a PMC *and* remaining under Jakarta, if 
ever possible, would help in any way.
What are the benefits?

Mind you, I'm not talking about the site or code organization, I'm 
talking about PMC (internal organization).

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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