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From Peter Donald <>
Subject Re: ClassLoaders ( was: Re: We need to stop the lies)
Date Fri, 01 Mar 2002 01:11:21 GMT
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:05, wrote:
> > You don't need any changes to ants core tasks to implement the
> > functionality. You could quite easily go to commons and implement it over
> > there against ant1.4.1
> The hooks are not only for that particular change - they solve few
> big problems in ant - it allows Tasks to be created by a factory that
> can control the loader, allow an alternative Project helper to
> be plugged in ( i.e. XML2 support, other extensions ), allow more
> flexibility in creating adapters.

I don't think the ProjectHelper changes will cause any problems. The only one 
who has ever expressed doubts over that style is Conor and I believe he has 
changed his mind.

The ClassLoader is however a completely different beastie and until it is 
thouroughly tested shouldn't be anywhere near ants core - especially as it 
doesn't need to be. If it turns out to be a good idea we can always 
incorporate it later.

> > Given how unlikely it is that your changes will be accepted into the main
> > tree I would recomend that as the best path forward.
> Well, I think the changes are solving a real problem in Ant1,
> and I see no reason to not have them accpted.

But you are unlikely to stick around to maintain ant.

> If you have a valid reason to -1 any of the changes and a second
> commiter will agree with you - I'll try to work around and find
> a better solutions.

Thats going to be the only real solution for you I suspect.

> Jose Alberto is the only reason for giving up on extending TaskAdapter,
> since I don't believe your argument is valid. But the rule
> is there, if a second commiter believes the same, it's valid.

Jose is not a committer as such. Feel free to wail.



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