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From David Corbin <>
Subject Re: [Coding Standards] Apache licence and GPL compatible?
Date Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:56:38 GMT
Jon Stevens wrote:
> on 1/18/01 5:09 AM, "Stuart Roebuck" <> wrote:
> > I've just had an email from Chris Seguin, the author of the code reformatting
> > utilities.  It looks to him that the GPL and Apache licenses are incompatible.
> > He says:
> >
> >> The apache license says that the code is owned by the
> >> Apache organization (and that it should remain open
> >> source).  GPL seems incompatible with this.  GPL says
> >> that the code is still owned by me.
> >
> > Can someone clarify this so that I can give him some firm information -
> > apologies if this has come up a thousand times before - I couldn't find a
> > helpful reference in my archives.
> >
> > I hasten to say that he goes on to say:
> >
> >> I might just start releasing it with a Apache license
> >> instead.
> >>
> >> Also, I'm excited!  I got Ant to work today!!!!
> Yes. The short story is that the GPL license and the ASF license are
> incompatible according to the FSF (not the irony here is that the ASF has
> not made such claims). Therefore, you cannot under and circumstances link
> with (ie: use a .jar) or include GPL software within an ASF project.
> Your best bet is to attempt to convince him to release a BSD or MPL 1.1
> version of his software. You can also suggest to him that he dual license
> his source code (like Justin Wells did with WebMacro) although that isn't
> preferable as it leads to confusion IMHO.

I suspect that this has it's problems too.  If he has incorporated other
peoples code into it (and I think he has), he needs their permission (at
least in an ethical sense, but probably legal to (IANAL)) to release it
under another license..

> Lastly, I would like to just state my own personal opinion (again) which is
> that the GPL just plain sucks.

You have understated how much it sucks.

> thanks,
> -jon
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David Corbin 		
Mach Turtle Technologies, Inc.

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